Google Buzz Discussion on ProsthesisOriginally posted on: How do you personally define prosthesis? Aaron Diaz - Buzz - Public How do you personally define prostheses? Do eyeglasses or shoes count? Is there a difference between a person with a prosthesis and a cyborg? In turn, how do you define a cyborg?
You are a Cyborg when one or more of those parts is a machine (ie mechanical, electronic etc...)
On that note what would you be called if you had a replacement part that was bioligicaly grown (and maybe enhanced?) See, this is why I start to hate semantics. You can go on like this all day and don't really gain anything from the process...
In general though I'd regard it as a spectrum rather than a definitive state. From human to fully robotic.
I'm sure our modern technology will seem quaint and hardly worthy of the word, in a few decades.
David Hand - One school of thought basically believes that something qualifies as a prosthesis when it is required to be alive, and replaces a part of your body. What about organ transplants? They would seem to fit, aside from the fact that they are entirely organic (most of this discussion seems focused on inorganic prostheses).
And this is even before we consider the rapidly approaching option of cloning organs.
But then also to counter what I just said, at what point does something become a part of your body? Certainly just holding a pencil doesn't convey anything special, but losing your hand and then attaching it to the space where your hand was does. Yet when one holds something, it is "attached" in a sense.
So, by my definition, prosthetics are common for a tool-using species like ours, and are half in the mind. Maybe I need a different word for the idea I'm getting at, but prosthetics seems close.
We are the Borg.
Related note, does the Terminators organic skin count as a prosthetic? He needs it to successfully integrate, therefore he cannot succeed at what he was made for without it - even if he can survive without it. So I'll preface by saying this: I'm a Cyborg Anthropologist. I study prosthetic culture. I'm afraid my response will be much too long, but I feel I have to share it. Also, this question between prosthetics and cyborgs is not completely defined yet. Cyborg Anthropology is an attempt to categorize and describe the differences and effects of tools and technology on culture. What I say here is not complete or correct. It is only a stab at a framework for understanding these ideas. Humans and objects have been co-creating each other symbiotically since we first began to use tools. I'd be inclined to say that anything that is an external prosthetic device creates one into a cyborg. A hammer is a prosthetic device that extends the capability of the fist. The cell phone extends the capability of the ear and vocal chords. The idea of a cell phone is a technosocial object that enables an actor (user) to communicate with other actors (users) on a network (information exchange and connectivity) makes one into what David Hess calls low-tech cyborgs: "I think about how almost everyone in urban societies could be seen as a low-tech cyborg, because they spend large parts of the day connected to machines such as cars, telephones, computers, and, of course, televisions. I ask the cyborg anthropologist if a system of a person watching a TV might constitute a cyborg. (When I watch TV, I feel like a homeostatic system functioning unconsciously.) I also think sometimes there is a fusion of identities between myself and the black box" (excerpt from Gray's The Cyborg Handbook, page 373). "According to the editors of The Cyborg Handbook, cyborg technologies take four different forms: restorative, normalizing, reconfiguring, and enhancing (Gray/Mentor/Figueroa-Sarriera 3). Cyborg translators are currently thought of almost exclusively as enhancing: improving existing translation processes by speeding them up, making them more reliable and cost-effective. And there is no reason why cyborg translation should be anything more than enhancing" (source: http://home.olemiss.edu/~djr/pages/writer/articles/html/cyborg.html). So with that, I think the items people are talking about here fall into a set of these specialized cyborg types. Here's a quick overview of them. A few more are tossed in. Source is the link above. "1. the protocyborg, which “lacks full embodiment” (14); the protocyborg translator would consist of a human translator sitting at a typewriter, or perhaps at a dedicated word-processor without internet access. 2. the neocyborg, which “has the outward form of cyborgism, such as an artificial limb, but lacks full homeostatic integration of the prosthesis” (14); the neocyborg translator consists of a human translator sitting at a computer, but so that the computer still serves as a typewriter, without full utilization of word-processing, term-management, e-mail, or web-browsing capabilities. 3. the semicyborg, an intermittent cyborg, only hooked up to technology some of the time; (most professional translators become semicyborgs when they work). 4. the hypercyborg, a cyborg embodiment that is layered or cobbled together into a larger cyborg whole; the hypercyborg translator consists of a network of many smaller cyborg translators, as when a team of semicyborg translator-editors is linked together by listserv or webboard and their collective output is fed into a centralized database, term-management program, or other machine(-aided) translation system. 5. the retrocyborg, a cyborg transformation intended to recreate some lost form; a retrocyborg translator might be one in which, for purposes of historical illustration at a translator fair, say, a human translator sits at a computer made to look like an old pre-electric typewriter, which guides its human operator to make translation decisions typical of protocyborg practice (when to hit the carriage return, when to roll the page up and correct a mistake with whiteout, when to pull the page all the way out and start it over). 6. the pseudoretrocyborg, a cyborg transformation intended to recreate a lost form that never existed; well, we’re pretty far into science fiction, here, but we can imagine, say, a retrocyborg made to look like a spirit-channeling translator, someone receiving the words of the target text from the spirit world (might be an attractive display at the main LDS museum in Salt Lake City, a cyborg demonstration of how Joseph Smith actually translated the Book of Mormon — although, of course, the Mormons would want to call the cyborg translator a retrocyborg rather than a pseudoretrocyborg)". I want to add that text is also a cybernetic assemblage. We are connected to it through ocular nerves, and it stimulates the brain directly, causing us to hallucinate ideas, people, and things. Text is a really good interface, and the best writing makes that interface dissolve, linking us directly to the content. Writing made us cybernetic creatures. I think technology is being looked at right now only because it moves so quickly that culture is regularly jarred into considering it and acclimatizing to it before it absorbs completely into the vat of culture. There's the idea also of prosthetics that extend the capability of the mind vs. the capability of the body. Text extends the capability of the mind, and the capability of the body when that text is created by a governing state or group of people to create laws, taxes, scripture... A knife extends the capability of the tooth. A vehicle the speed of one's legs. I think these questions appear because most of what we've been doing recently has extended the physical self. Now, we're seeing technology as an extension of the mental self. My Facebook body is a set of technosocial sensors that are easily stimulated through the interaction of others with my page. I feel those interactions through my embodied online self. Part of myself does not end at my body, but at my digital body, identity, ect. How I experience time and space is affected by that. There's something interesting occuring with physical devices vs. mental devices. I think this is something that's really key to the whole study of prosthetic culture and the idea of the cyborg. Mental transportation and prosthetic devices dissolve, while physical ones do not. Let me explain from the perspective of anthropology: A hammer's shape and function has remained the same for thousands of years. It is a stable tool that does not suddenly change from one decade or moment to the next. We see it, we hold it, and we know what it is for. However, the computer arrived on the scene as a gigantic, solid device. Buttons were large and unwieldy. One could not simply move a button around without having to rewire an entire system of wires and sockets and electrical impulses. The thing was the size of a gymnasium. There's a story about a man coming to visit a massive computer laboratory. He asked the lead engineer about the weight of this thing called "software". The lead engineer had one of the programmers roll out an enormous cart of punch cards before realizing that the software was not on the punchcards, but on the holes in the punchcards. The software was invisible. It didn't weigh anything. First the computer was larger than an office, then the computer it inside an office. Now Office runs on the computer. Computers and network technologies are extensions of the mental self, and thus they are evaporating and compressing and changing. They are not stable objects, like those we use to extend the capabilities of our physical selves. Solid interfaces are melting. Software can be downloaded from the air. A computer does not increase its weight when one adds data to it. With augmented reality, the interface makes another step from solid to liquid to air. The interface can be anywhere. I agree with Dylan Armitage. It's more of a spectrum than a binary. It's something that's becoming more common as we become mentally linked by machines. We're technosocial hybrids. Sometimes off, and sometimes on. Some more connected, and others less connected. We will never all be completely connected or completely unconnected. We will always be on different pages. Social class and education affects this a whole lot. There's a nice book on how these feed systems (especially the one you're using to read this text right now) will affect how people live. It's a teenage sci-fi book called Feed, by M.T. Anderson. http://caseorganic.com/XZ I'm missing the quote attribution for this one, but I think it sums up a lot of things. "If you want to see how technology has changed the world, don't look at how you've changed, look at how childhood has changed". Sorry for the length.Edit
Thanks for going on at length, here. =)
Liam Cady - I may be repeating someone whose post I didn't read in depth, but it seems to me a prosthesis is a non-organic replacement of a body part, and a cyborg is someone whose prosthesis uses technology to improve the function of the part it replaces.
Kevin Sweeney - Indeed, great post, Amber! I feel all that is left for me to say about this is a thought I had just earlier today while I was walking back from the grocery store. I looked down to see the cords of my headphones hanging down to my pocket and thought about how many of us are walking around a large amount of the time connected to our computers through our ears. This post really expanded upon that flittering of an idea.
Amber Case - Awesome, @Alex, "Prosthetics replace what is lost. Cyborgs enhance". I love the brevity of this description. I'm trying to find counter-examples. There may not be any.Edit
However, as someone who quite literally wouldn't have survived past childhood without glasses (nor be able to...er...reproduce without them) I'm interested in the development of prostheses that alter the way in which genes are passed on. I don't know of any studies relating to the genetic basis for eyesight deficiencies and their presence in the population before/after the development of effective corrective eyewear, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a pretty big jump around the same time (allowing for trickle down effects between development and ubiquity). This of course assumes a fairly straightforward genotype-phenotype relationship for eye problems. Again on practical grounds, I'd say that the distinction between prostheses and cyborg should be drawn on the basis of enhancement. If something is added to an organism that wasn't there at birth, it's a prostheses. If that prostheses adds a capability not found in the majority of the species (or at all, as the case may be) or enhances an ability to a level beyond that found in the majority of the species (and, for tradition's sake, is primarily electromechanical) I'd call the resulting organism a cyborg. Eek, that was a little longer than I thought it'd be.
What's a magnifying glass?
William Frank - @Alex: Just working within the frame of Amber's post, where all tools are essentially prostheses. I whole-heartedly agree with you.
Kevin Sweeney - As much as having words to describe what we are talking about is important, sometimes I feel like we create differences when there really are none. This can sometimes be bad. One fantastic example of taking common words and giving them very specific meanings in a context is James Carse's book "Finite and Infinite Games". Pretty much every example is based on redefining a concept that we all know to highlight the finite vs the infinite. Machine vs garden is a good example for this conversation. Both are examples of humanity using knowledge to shape our world but the machine is an attempt to control it completely while the garden plans for the unknown and works with unpredictability. By this definition, a computer is a machine while a sentient A.I. could almost be considered a garden. My point with this is to highlight how definitions are important in context. However, they can be misleading when vast concepts are condensed into short jumbles of letters and thrown around every day. A good example of this is the distinction that many people have in their mind between animals and humans because of the different words we have for them. We are animals; we are not above animals. I picked this example because of the distinction that many seem to be making between machines and organic life. Organic life is but a very complex machine (I imagine this group will not have any issues with this and I will let it stand on its own). The distinction worth making is perhaps the base of the machine: carbon based lifeforms, silicon based computers, steel based automobiles, etc. Then the questions become: should there be a distinction when we make a steel based prosthesis for an organic machine or when we make a carbon based prosthesis for a silicon machine? I would say no. Also, I suppose a transplant could be a carbon based prosthesis for a carbon machine? Would a harddrive upgrade also be a like prosthesis? No one really answered if transplants were prostheses or not... Then cyborgs become machines with components of various bases. (This was inspired by Patrick Meslin's question: what should we call artificial construct[s] to which organic elements have been bound? and obviously heavily influenced by Amber's bit removing distinctions between tools and prostheses)
I think there's a good reason why we have different words to describe tool and prostheses because there's a functional difference in the impact of one and the other. In addition to the enhancement qualifier I added to the idea of a cyborg, I'd like to take up Stewart's idea of permanence- things that involve a more or less 'untakebackable' choice like a tattoo. There will, of course, be examples on the fuzzy line between both tool and prostheses. Cell phones, for example, are right on the cusp, and the notion of a distributed character to our personas (i.e. our online presence, etc.) is as well. Neither of them trip my 'prostheses' trigger entirely though.
I think a main point to take away from discussions like these is that augmentation, cyborgs and the like are nothing new. Humans have been in this business before we knew how to write, and the divisions popular culture currently uses are more than a bit arbitrary.
Kurzweil's discussions of the exponential nature of time very evident here.
It looks like that's what Aaron's using as a definition of prostheses, except the line is drawn at what we are genetically; it seems then all accumulation of knowledge, all art and expression, anything we've used to evolve past cavemen is a form of prostheses (or cybernetics) under this definition. I can see the appeal of that definition but I don't think it jives with what most people would think of as prosthetics.
@William: If I use a magnifying glass constantly, to improve my vision beyond what I had lost, that would make me a cyborg.
Personally the words "prosthetic" and "cyborg" are sort of casualities of popular culture and will forever mean peg-legs and the Borg. ( but then again I'm no cyborg anthropologist =) )
Prosthetics, on the other hand, are more related to the immune system.We can't regrow our limbs, or repair our eyes, so we have to build mechanical systems to compensate.
Chris Battey - When you've defined prosthesis to include "any creation or invention", you've essentially made the term useless. I'm in favor of a much narrower definition. I think a "prosthesis" is anything used to replace or augment missing or deficient capabilities, where "missing" and "deficient" are defined relative to some sort of human normal level. Glasses, then, are prostheses, whereas a magnifying glass is not. Once augmentations reach the point where they're allowing you to significantly exceed human-normal levels - and they've become a significant part of your everyday concept of your body - I think that's where the "transhuman" line begins. ("Cyborg", I'd define as "transhuman" where the primary means of augmentation is electronic in nature. There are other means to transhumanism, particularly the biological...) I was going to say that vision, communication, and language were not prostheses and that we might have to draw the line at writing and written language, but now we are just extending through some more grey area. It is a fairly arbitrary line between technologies that we 'evolved' and those that we 'invented' when we start talking about language as an invention as opposed to an evolution that improved our chances of survival. communication -> language -> writing -> computers opposable thumbs -> sticks -> hammers -> computers Where is the evolution / invention barrier? I go back to my post that was kind of lost in the shuffle. All of these are types of machines, from simple to incredibly advanced, including ourselves. We could define a prosthesis as a machine of one base integrating that of another (carbon based lifeform machine with steel based hammer machine). It would answer why medicines that improve health are not considered prostheses even though they improve the immune system and why artificially grown hearts are not really considered prostheses, but why a metal arm or heart makes you a cyborg. It would include language and communication: carbon based lifeform with information based sound (energy based waves). In this case, many lifeforms began having prostheses when they began communicating with sound, light, and chemicals (wait not chemicals, they are carbon based) but we are the only lifeform that has continued that through to many many forms of complex machines (most of which we have invented with our evolved intellect, including language). I feel that this is especially appropriate since we as humans have a pension for defining things in terms of us vs everything that came before us, where 'us' is usually agricultural man. That line through the grey is one of the most obvious and the least seen. In the future we may even see silicon based computer machines with carbon based prostheses (I imagine that carbon based something is better than its silicon or steel based equivalent).
It's still natural selection in process, except that now, we have more clout to say how and in what direction this evolution will take place than we ever had previously, in face of the imposing conditions of the ever-changing environment. And if such technologies enable or assist us in order to survive, then my guess is we are all for the better of it. And for those that didn't make it, give us a valuable lesson in their failure to adapt. And prostheses are just that - augmenting abilities or lack thereof. Moving on to the difference between a person with a prosthesis and a cyborg, in my humble opinion would have to do with the creation of either being. Humans are created initially through the fertilization of an egg by a sperm cell, and undergoes the whole gestation process. In other words, completely organic in origins. Whereas cyborgs, according to "Cyborgs and Space" by Clynes and Kline is a cybernetic organism (composed of both natural and artificial elements).In essence, a good deal of humanity can be classified as cyborgs due to the application of existing technologies (glasses, shoes, cane, bone replacement, etc.). These definitions seem to suffice at least on the physical level. It's a whole lot more complicated to define once metaphysics come in. In a nutshell, at least I believe that the fundamental aspects of human and cyborg are one and the same, thus at least metaphysically, there is no significant difference. To put in question, removing all the cybernetic enhancements on an organism, would that organism be any more or any less human than one without (whether they require it for convenience or not)?
Back on topic about Cyborg and Human with no real arms but plastic ones... right now, I don't see any difference for what I've read in here, except for the massive connotations of the cyborg term for mecanichal humans ala Shirow Masamune.
There is some sort of parallel to be drawn between medicine and prostheses. Medicine, either used as human enhancement, dietary supplement, or treatment for an illness, has been viewed as a very critical part of human advancement, and rightly so: it's caused us to get over MAJOR hurdles in our evolution as a culture. However, if we are going to have any sort of opinion toward the nature of prostheses and cyborgism, then such critiques must be applied to medicine as well. If there is to be any negative conclusion drawn about modifying ourselves from our natural form, then it is not only a negative conclusion in regard to cyborgs and artificial limbs. It's a connotation received as well by medicine, eyeglasses, functional clothes (warm coats, shoes, etc.), tools operated intimately with our bodies, surgeries, blood transfusions, etc.
The wide variety of answers we've collected as to which meaning associates with which word has become unruly and unreliable. Perhaps our questions should focus more upon the use and perception of those words. After all, in linguistics, the symbol that lacks a relationship to its audience is not language at all. It communicates nothing. Instead of trying to differentiate between Cyborg, Tool, and Prosthetic (the overlap of which terms is clear simply by reading through this sampling of their use), let us ask instead what it means to be called a cyborg. Could it offend someone? What if I were to call your laptop, or this Google Buzz software a prosthetic? What does calling a thing a prosthetic do differently than calling a thing a tool? In my own understanding of these terms, I perceive neither a spectrum nor a binary between tools and prosthetics. Their distinctive use is to denote an attitude toward technology and its relationship to a user. When one person complains metaphorically that "that boy would die without internet access" they are implying that the device has become so integral to that person's homeostasis that their optimal functionality is threatened without it. This is the same kind of relationship that people feel but speak less of when they talk about shoes or glasses to varying degrees and in varying contexts. A master blacksmith, for example will talk more often of his hammer as an extension of his arm than a "mere tool." I, however, with little experience in physical crafts, would more naturally associate "hammer" with "tool." The distinction is not in the object itself, but in how that object relates to us. A fighter pilot's plane is his/her prosthetic. It requires that pilot to have expert familiarity with it, its capabilities, its limitations, its intended use, and the principles guiding its use. So too the blacksmith's hammer, but not my hammer. There is another layer to this distinction. In the example of the "boy who would die without the internet," there is also the element of disapproval. There is an implied irony in calling something non-vital necessary for survival. Agreeable examples of a prosthetic are current medical prosthetics: semi-robotic arms, false legs, pacemakers, etc. To imply that these are "tools" may be insulting to a prosthetic user, since it undermines that person's conception of their own body. If a prosthetic leg is a tool, then it is extraneous to one's self; not a leg, but an object independent of one's homeostasis. To that person, it would be ridiculous. A leg is thing that is used to walk or stand, that has a knee, and connects to a foot. Chairs have legs. So to call a device (the internet) a prosthetic, is to make a statement about how it is used (by the boy... in this case we assume obsessively.) Call a fighter pilot's plane a tool, and that pilot will say that you're undervaluing the expertise of his skills and his role in the plane's function. Call a kindergartener’s pen an extension of his mind, and you're exaggerating the same things. Call the internet necessary for survival to an individual, and you're implying as much a deficit in that person's mentality because of their use of technology as is denoted about another person's physiology when you say the same thing about their pacemaker. So not only are these words used to indicate use and relationship of object and user, but they can also reveal the attitude of the speaker toward that object or its use. Luddites see a world ever-more populated with tools. Progressives see it as ever-more populated with cyborgs. Excellent, wonderful.
When someone went to build the hammer, as cited by many as a tool or prosthetic that hasn't changed, they decided to build something that could achieve a specific task. Language has had natural evolution and although it was CREATED with a purpose, it has not EVOLVED for any reason other than organic reasons, as a creature evolves. And because language has not evolved for any sort of purpose, it is, in my mind, no prosthetic.
Imagine dropping a person off in the middle of a forest and forbidding them the use of any kind of tool (including fire, shelter, hunting utensils, etc). That person would not survive. They could not survive. Without tools, our bodies are almost laughably vulnerable. Regardless of the technological advances that occur within the next century, human beings simply could not be more dependent on 'prostheses' than we already are. So, at the point where human beings literally cannot survive without prostheses, why is it that we do not already call ourselves cyborgs? I think that the reason is mostly rhetorical. Being dependent on our inventions is just a part of being human. It always has been. For that reason, I think that, regardless of what proportion of our bodies become synthetic, humans will always think of themselves as humans. Any why not? To be human is to be a cyborg.
I tend to think that a cyborg would have to have a prosthesis fully integrated into their form. Glasses, shoes, and even many prosthetic limbs tend to be easily removable.
@ Eric Izzett, I agree with your point about "humans will always think of themselves as humans." To be human is to be technology-dependent, at least now. But the use of "cyborg" defines it better than its meaning. It's a recent word, used to distinguish between what has become accepted as socially normal tech-dependent and beyond-normal (or specifically computer-based) tech-dependent. Where we as a community of language-users draw the line for "cyborg" is where we draw the line for 'acceptable' technology.
What about implantable cardioverter-defibrillators? Dental prostheses are definitely prosthesis, even if they're cosmetic. What about breast implants?
Breast implants = enhancement = tool Dental prostheses = replace lost function (missing teeth) = prosthetic Knee brace: if it is to improve existing knee performance, tool. If knee is significantly less operable without it, prosthetic (I would imagine a more permanent 'brace' in this case, e.g. reinforcing struts used in partial knee replacement surgery) ICDs however are more difficult, but my opinion is they are prostheses since their presence corrects irregular biological functions.
@ Peter. Your knee brace is something in-between. Whereas a total or partial knee replacement would be a prosthesis, and a knee pad is a tool used to prevent injury, your knee brace is a prosthetic tool used to support the operation of an organic device that has suffered damage, but is not out of order to the extent that it would require replacement. As for breast implants, those are accessorial prostheses used by tools.
In my opinion, a prosthetic is something that replaces a part that is missing from the standard human chassis, be this a titanium hip replacement, or a wooden leg, or one of those nice scottish hands with the replaceable, mass produced finger bits. The knee brace listed above is not a prosthetic - it is a corrective external modification. It's essentially a case of "There, I fixed it!" kludging, because opening up the human body and repairing tissue damage is expensive, difficult, and far riskier than just welding or strapping an exoframe onto it to do most of the work the joint would do. The ideal is to be able to use interchangeable, or replaceable parts on the human chassis. Since every human is different....well, we just need better machining systems and custom parts might be possible. TLDR: a prosthetic replaces a part that no longer functions. Note the No-Longer part. Reconstructive surgery after a horrific injury might be called prosthetic face. Cher... not so much. I'd like to take a moment to pull in a term from fiction here: Augmetic. An Augmetic device is something that replaces existing parts of the organic human chassis with parts that work more efficiently, or have some function not found in the standard meatbag. Yes, some crossover with cybernetics here, but Cybernetics refers to electronic/computer controlled servos. Augmetic here refers to function.
I don't think reconstructive surgery is prosthetic, though it may involve prostheses. I'm not sure that it's possible to define a breast implant as "not prosthetic", because the same implant may be used in cosmetic surgery or reconstructive surgery. There's a substantial gray area.
@S Hagan Interesting you should mention custom parts; some are possible now: http://www.profeng.com/archive/2010/2302/23020057.htm
@richard Stubbs - Though I can't provide a link at the moment, consider this - High Resolution 3d scans of bone tissue + rapid prototyping technology + advanced robosurgery techniques = A new bone replacement, EXACTLY like the old one (if your scan is on file), printed while u wait, and attached via microsurgery. With the right prototyper, or even a CNC machine, imagine a perfect fit in carbon fiber or titanium.
I find that when "defining" something that most of us would agree is a human creation or invention, it's easiest to look at two fundamental things that make up our definition: Intent and Perception. A false leg would indeed be a prosthesis, because it is intended AND perceived as such; specifically, intended and perceived as an extension of the body, replacing a leg that is no longer there. To use an earlier example, a Magnifying Glass as we think of it would not be a prosthesis, because it is neither intended nor perceived to be a part of the body, or replacing a part of the body, etc. and is instead viewed as a seperate object in and of itself. However if you take that same magnifying glass and grafted it in front of your eye, then it would be a prosthesis because our intent and perception of it have now changed-- and arguably its function as well, but let's not get into the semantics of utility here :D My point is that when making a definition we must focus on what we really use to implement the definition, rather than trying to classify things by criteria evident within the defined object itself. Culture is fluid, and therefore definitions must be also; otherwise we'll get stuck in cycles of counterexamples and redefinitions, and end up with something arbitrarily long and useless. |
